AdminDan Gravell
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An error occurred while saving the comment What appears to be happening here is some confusion around what is denoted the "album artist" for the album.
We choose the album artist based on:
- The ALBUM_ARTIST tag
- The ARTIST tag
- The COMPILATION tag
- The location of the files (which act as a grouping indicator - the file/folder names are not used)If "Various" is chosen at any point, this normally means the album was combined for some reason - is it a compilation, or are the files in the same folder?
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An error occurred while saving the comment Thanks - what do you mean by music "assignment"? Do you mean lookup so that Plex can find information about music?
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An error occurred while saving the comment Thanks for this.
This can already be done with the file organisation rule if the \ImportMusic folder is in the same root as the music folder.
If it's important that \ImportMusic is separate, then https://ideas.blisshq.com/forums/21939-bliss/suggestions/9161260-move-music-files-between-libraries would work, with the proviso that the "target" isn't being analysed.
Agree?
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An error occurred while saving the comment Could you use the ARTISTSORT field for this: https://ideas.blisshq.com/forums/21939-bliss/suggestions/2249593-for-file-organisation-create-a-new-album-artist-v ?
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An error occurred while saving the comment So are you suggesting interpreting release information from folder and file paths?
I guess you could come up with heuristics for this, but I'd be a bit wary about it.
It shouldn't really take _that_ long to just read these files, although I agree writing data can be slow. I'm not showing much empathy here, so maybe I misunderstand just how high a speed you require!
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An error occurred while saving the comment Thanks - so does this happen to all HTTP traffic to the NAS's IP?
An error occurred while saving the comment Hi - can you explain what you mean by "synology servers, configured with HTTPS access" - are you referring to a setting in DSM?
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An error occurred while saving the comment I think there are two cases of this:
- Handle tracks that are single tracks (*not* single releases) - these may or may not have album tags
- Handle individual tracks as part of an album, or more generally subsets of albums, better, so they are more likely to match to linked releases (right now the certainty is lower for subsets, especially individual tracks)I think these should be implemented separately, as two separate pieces of work.
An error occurred while saving the comment Ok. In theory that should work for a small number of singles - in the same way you can have one folder of multiple full albums. However, this wouldn't scale to 4000 tracks at the moment.
An error occurred while saving the comment Just want to add a clarification here (for anyone reading)...
When it is said bliss is "album" oriented, what is meant is that it is "release" oriented.
If you have complete single releases, they should work just as well as albums. For example, if you have the A side, B side and other tracks, and they are in their own folder together.
It's more "odd tracks" that are the problem, and what is meant by "Singles" in the title. But I can understand the motivation.
An error occurred while saving the comment Max, maybe see http://ideas.blisshq.com/forums/21939-bliss/suggestions/3758349-add-logic-to-conditionally-use-tags-in-filename also?
Do you have tags that dictate whether a given release is a single, compilation or album? There's such as thing as a COMPILATION tag but no well agreed "single" tag or similar. I ask because it may not always be possible to look the data up - it may be missing for more exotic releases.
An error occurred while saving the comment Yes, I suppose there's a few ways of cutting this particular cake. Different libraries with different rules is one. Specifying certain directories are ignored for the file org is another.
I kinda like your original idea though. Seems quite powerful.
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An error occurred while saving the comment Thanks @Christopher . Those are some good heuristics to add to the list.
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An error occurred while saving the comment Ok - but just to confirm: any slowness on those sites shouldn't affect bliss, because although we source the same data, it's served from our own database and servers.
An error occurred while saving the comment Another alternative is to do this at the linked releases level - i.e. only link releases from MusicBrainz, Discogs etc.
An error occurred while saving the comment Why, is one database providing data you are not happy with?
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An error occurred while saving the comment Love this idea. I think there are some rules that can't be fixed by bliss - this is one of them, because upsampling in most cases would probably not be desirable.
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An error occurred while saving the comment This should only happen when one of the following conditions is true:
- The files are all in the same folder.
- The ALBUM ARTIST or ARTIST fields vary such that there's no one distinct artist present in at least 70% of the tracks.So try reviewing the current fields, and see if changing them helps...
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An error occurred while saving the comment The word "album" is used a lot in music library management. However, in reality, in most cases, "album" means "release" - https://www.blisshq.com/music-library-management-blog/2013/08/06/album-name-think-release-name/
A single should basically be organised like an album. The ALBUM NAME tag should be filled with the name of the lead track (in double A sides this might be two tracks). Here're a couple of examples from MusicBrainz:
https://musicbrainz.org/release/b5109c8b-9808-4e28-8e03-36d100b5d86e
https://musicbrainz.org/release/b6cc6503-2f64-4dd2-91e3-a27b9ab526feIn theory, then, singles should be able to be identified, _however_ because of the lower number of tracks in the release, achieving a satisfactory confidence in the software might be more difficult.
In terms of actually marking a release or group of tracks as a single, this is up to you to define a field name - there are no commonly used field names for this purpose (that I know of). In which software do you want to see the releases separated by release "type"?
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An error occurred while saving the comment The album artist _and_ the album name is a _sort_ of primary key.
I think this might happen if the files are in the same folder. Is that the case for you?
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An error occurred while saving the comment When you say "move a genre or sub genre of music in and out" you mean "in and out" of a top-level music folder, right?
Sounds like one for http://ideas.blisshq.com/forums/21939-bliss/suggestions/36753685-individual-rulesets-for-different-genres
Also see https://www.blisshq.com/music-library-management-blog/2017/08/01/ruleset-selecta/
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An error occurred while saving the comment The closest thing is using search on the Tags page, but this is an exact match and it shows files, not albums. This might at least give you an idea what album it is!
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An error occurred while saving the comment Certainly no reason other than it hasn't been implemented yet ;-)
An error occurred while saving the comment I merged Matt Jenkins idea into this one:
"Being able to search your database for artists, albums, albums of a specific genre, etc would be a huge bonus.
When you have thousands of albums spread amongst many hundreds of artists finding the album or artist within the artist and album displays is an onerous task. A simple search box that returns simple text matches for artist, album, genre, etc., would be a good start. Advanced searches where you can search for strings within the specific topics of artist, album, genre etc., would be even better."
An error occurred while saving the comment I agree. As more stuff is added to the interface, a search function becomes one of the easiest way of finding things.
I think it should be top level (accessible from any page) and it shouldn't just search for albums, artists etc.... it should also search for bliss concepts. E.g. search for 'settings' - suggests a settings page. Search for 'albums' - suggests the album overview page. Anyway, that's a vision, maybe first step would just be album/artist search as you say.
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An error occurred while saving the comment Nice idea in principle.
Can this be done without the data from the rip? i.e. do the audio files have all the data required to query the database? For example, the CD drive table requires data about your CD drive - that won't be in the music files.
I wonder if there's a different solution in just audio analysis.
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An error occurred while saving the comment Ok - if the folder names change then that means bliss won't know the new location of the music. In that case you could use "Rescan for new and updated music files".
An error occurred while saving the comment Please send us a debug archive (https://www.blisshq.com/support/faq/general/how-create-debug-archive.html) to support@blisshq.com so we can see the source of the "confusion".
There is the remove album and rescan folders option on each album page - does that work?
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An error occurred while saving the comment This can be done with the file organisation rule - does https://www.blisshq.com/music-library-management-blog/2012/01/13/organising-multi-disc-album-files/ explain it?
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An error occurred while saving the comment Agree...
An error occurred while saving the comment This would be fixed by ruleset selectors - https://www.blisshq.com/music-library-management-blog/2017/08/01/ruleset-selecta/ the selector being "artist starts-with A" or something...
The only workaround for this right now is to use bliss-ignorefolders: https://www.blisshq.com/music-library-management-blog/2011/08/16/new-release-20110809/ (this is even easier in the case where files are organised by starting letter, but this is less likely to be the case).
This seems a common request for DJs inparticular.
Did you see:
- https://ideas.blisshq.com/forums/21939-bliss/suggestions/1871581-handle-folders-containing-singles
- https://ideas.blisshq.com/forums/21939-bliss/suggestions/42192883-mark-as-singles
Do they cover similar ground?
I assume you mean "singles" as an individual track rather than an actual single release (which often, although not always, contain other tracks). In that case, "album" is synonymous with "single" - what it really means is "release".