AdminDan Gravell
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An error occurred while saving the comment So are you suggesting interpreting release information from folder and file paths?
I guess you could come up with heuristics for this, but I'd be a bit wary about it.
It shouldn't really take _that_ long to just read these files, although I agree writing data can be slow. I'm not showing much empathy here, so maybe I misunderstand just how high a speed you require!
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An error occurred while saving the comment Thanks - so does this happen to all HTTP traffic to the NAS's IP?
An error occurred while saving the comment Hi - can you explain what you mean by "synology servers, configured with HTTPS access" - are you referring to a setting in DSM?
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An error occurred while saving the comment I think there are two cases of this:
- Handle tracks that are single tracks (*not* single releases) - these may or may not have album tags
- Handle individual tracks as part of an album, or more generally subsets of albums, better, so they are more likely to match to linked releases (right now the certainty is lower for subsets, especially individual tracks)I think these should be implemented separately, as two separate pieces of work.
An error occurred while saving the comment Ok. In theory that should work for a small number of singles - in the same way you can have one folder of multiple full albums. However, this wouldn't scale to 4000 tracks at the moment.
An error occurred while saving the comment Just want to add a clarification here (for anyone reading)...
When it is said bliss is "album" oriented, what is meant is that it is "release" oriented.
If you have complete single releases, they should work just as well as albums. For example, if you have the A side, B side and other tracks, and they are in their own folder together.
It's more "odd tracks" that are the problem, and what is meant by "Singles" in the title. But I can understand the motivation.
An error occurred while saving the comment Max, maybe see http://ideas.blisshq.com/forums/21939-bliss/suggestions/3758349-add-logic-to-conditionally-use-tags-in-filename also?
Do you have tags that dictate whether a given release is a single, compilation or album? There's such as thing as a COMPILATION tag but no well agreed "single" tag or similar. I ask because it may not always be possible to look the data up - it may be missing for more exotic releases.
An error occurred while saving the comment Yes, I suppose there's a few ways of cutting this particular cake. Different libraries with different rules is one. Specifying certain directories are ignored for the file org is another.
I kinda like your original idea though. Seems quite powerful.
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An error occurred while saving the comment Thanks @Christopher . Those are some good heuristics to add to the list.
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An error occurred while saving the comment Ok - but just to confirm: any slowness on those sites shouldn't affect bliss, because although we source the same data, it's served from our own database and servers.
An error occurred while saving the comment Another alternative is to do this at the linked releases level - i.e. only link releases from MusicBrainz, Discogs etc.
An error occurred while saving the comment Why, is one database providing data you are not happy with?
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An error occurred while saving the comment Love this idea. I think there are some rules that can't be fixed by bliss - this is one of them, because upsampling in most cases would probably not be desirable.
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An error occurred while saving the comment This should only happen when one of the following conditions is true:
- The files are all in the same folder.
- The ALBUM ARTIST or ARTIST fields vary such that there's no one distinct artist present in at least 70% of the tracks.So try reviewing the current fields, and see if changing them helps...
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An error occurred while saving the comment The word "album" is used a lot in music library management. However, in reality, in most cases, "album" means "release" - https://www.blisshq.com/music-library-management-blog/2013/08/06/album-name-think-release-name/
A single should basically be organised like an album. The ALBUM NAME tag should be filled with the name of the lead track (in double A sides this might be two tracks). Here're a couple of examples from MusicBrainz:
https://musicbrainz.org/release/b5109c8b-9808-4e28-8e03-36d100b5d86e
https://musicbrainz.org/release/b6cc6503-2f64-4dd2-91e3-a27b9ab526feIn theory, then, singles should be able to be identified, _however_ because of the lower number of tracks in the release, achieving a satisfactory confidence in the software might be more difficult.
In terms of actually marking a release or group of tracks as a single, this is up to you to define a field name - there are no commonly used field names for this purpose (that I know of). In which software do you want to see the releases separated by release "type"?
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An error occurred while saving the comment The album artist _and_ the album name is a _sort_ of primary key.
I think this might happen if the files are in the same folder. Is that the case for you?
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An error occurred while saving the comment When you say "move a genre or sub genre of music in and out" you mean "in and out" of a top-level music folder, right?
Sounds like one for http://ideas.blisshq.com/forums/21939-bliss/suggestions/36753685-individual-rulesets-for-different-genres
Also see https://www.blisshq.com/music-library-management-blog/2017/08/01/ruleset-selecta/
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An error occurred while saving the comment The closest thing is using search on the Tags page, but this is an exact match and it shows files, not albums. This might at least give you an idea what album it is!
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An error occurred while saving the comment Certainly no reason other than it hasn't been implemented yet ;-)
An error occurred while saving the comment I merged Matt Jenkins idea into this one:
"Being able to search your database for artists, albums, albums of a specific genre, etc would be a huge bonus.
When you have thousands of albums spread amongst many hundreds of artists finding the album or artist within the artist and album displays is an onerous task. A simple search box that returns simple text matches for artist, album, genre, etc., would be a good start. Advanced searches where you can search for strings within the specific topics of artist, album, genre etc., would be even better."
An error occurred while saving the comment I agree. As more stuff is added to the interface, a search function becomes one of the easiest way of finding things.
I think it should be top level (accessible from any page) and it shouldn't just search for albums, artists etc.... it should also search for bliss concepts. E.g. search for 'settings' - suggests a settings page. Search for 'albums' - suggests the album overview page. Anyway, that's a vision, maybe first step would just be album/artist search as you say.
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An error occurred while saving the comment Nice idea in principle.
Can this be done without the data from the rip? i.e. do the audio files have all the data required to query the database? For example, the CD drive table requires data about your CD drive - that won't be in the music files.
I wonder if there's a different solution in just audio analysis.
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An error occurred while saving the comment Ok - if the folder names change then that means bliss won't know the new location of the music. In that case you could use "Rescan for new and updated music files".
An error occurred while saving the comment Please send us a debug archive (https://www.blisshq.com/support/faq/general/how-create-debug-archive.html) to support@blisshq.com so we can see the source of the "confusion".
There is the remove album and rescan folders option on each album page - does that work?
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An error occurred while saving the comment This can be done with the file organisation rule - does https://www.blisshq.com/music-library-management-blog/2012/01/13/organising-multi-disc-album-files/ explain it?
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An error occurred while saving the comment Agree...
An error occurred while saving the comment This would be fixed by ruleset selectors - https://www.blisshq.com/music-library-management-blog/2017/08/01/ruleset-selecta/ the selector being "artist starts-with A" or something...
The only workaround for this right now is to use bliss-ignorefolders: https://www.blisshq.com/music-library-management-blog/2011/08/16/new-release-20110809/ (this is even easier in the case where files are organised by starting letter, but this is less likely to be the case).
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An error occurred while saving the comment True - we can always streamline as much as possible.
An error occurred while saving the comment Thanks for explaining, that makes it clearer. Definitely something that cannot be automated I think...
An error occurred while saving the comment Interesting idea.
To what extent should an album be considered duplicate?
For example, let's say you had an original release, and an "anniversary edition" release with three extra tracks. What should be the behaviour?
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An error occurred while saving the comment We already have that for ignoring files and folders altogether: https://www.blisshq.com/music-library-management-blog/2011/08/16/new-release-20110809/
The trouble for adding _another_ file for this is that this is something we'll have to continue to support in the future. And the edge cases - does the file get moved when bliss's file org feature moves files? Lots of stuff like this will crop up.
An error occurred while saving the comment Yes - although this idea would merely ignore that.
For dates, three dates spring to mind:
- Recording date
- Original release date (the original album/single whatever release date)
- Release date (e.g. for remasters)But that should be in another idea thread.
An error occurred while saving the comment This would also be useful for having your own fields calculated from other data - https://www.blisshq.com/music-library-management-blog/2017/10/03/derived-tags/
An error occurred while saving the comment "Unknown" doesn't mean the album is unknown, it means the album's _compliance_ is unknown, i.e. whether it obeys the rules or not.
Normally this is indicative of another problem - send a debug archive to us as per https://www.blisshq.com/support/reporting-problems.html Thanks!
An error occurred while saving the comment This would also be useful for that: https://www.blisshq.com/music-library-management-blog/2017/10/03/derived-tags/
An error occurred while saving the comment Great ideas. The main progress has been identifying a way of fixing these problems, although work has not begun on them yet.
Ignoring certain compliance for certain albums can be seen as a special case of https://www.blisshq.com/music-library-management-blog/2017/08/01/ruleset-selecta/ - i.e. the "selector" selects this album in particular, and the ruleset assigned to that selector is the same as otherwise, except with the "ignored" rule removed.
An error occurred while saving the comment Are you saying you want the subtitles in the album name, or just that bliss is matching to the incorrect release?
One thing that might be useful is the ability to choose a subset of the Linked Releases to use.
An error occurred while saving the comment Yes, good example.
An error occurred while saving the comment Just wanted to make a note to myself...
Rather than specific "ignore" functionality this should work by implementing "selectors". Create a new selector for this specific album, with a slightly-changed ruleset.
This would be preferable, because selectors are a more powerful, less specific implementation and it should mean less code overall.
An error occurred while saving the comment Yes, although the way I look at it is having a "selector" to which rules can be applied, e.g.
select all albums where genre = "christmas" => [specific rules]
I just have a natural aversion to conditional statements :D
An error occurred while saving the comment Nice idea! Might need to add that as a separate idea, though... I'll close this once "ignore" is implemented.
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An error occurred while saving the comment Interesting idea. You might find it easier, though, if you synced the album with the original release instead.
Could you give an example of the album? Are you talking about boxsets where albums are re-released together?
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An error occurred while saving the comment So this is where the canonical name for an artist is prefixed by "The", but you don't want it because it makes searching using your music player harder?
Note the canonical name for Ramones _is_ actually "Ramones", without the "The". In this case you could use the tag accuracy rules to get the current artist name without the "The".
Note that fields like ARTISTSORT can be used to make sure any artist starting with the definite article appears in lists as if "The" wasn't there, e.g. The Beatles would appear under "B".
Could you use the ARTISTSORT field for this: https://ideas.blisshq.com/forums/21939-bliss/suggestions/2249593-for-file-organisation-create-a-new-album-artist-v ?