AdminDan Gravell
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This work has now been completed and will be in the next beta, hopefully next week. The full release should be the week after.
An error occurred while saving the comment An error occurred while saving the comment I've started work on this by designing a way that the existing album can contribute tag suggestions given existing tags, files etc. This could be of general use to other areas. Examples:
- Providing tags from filenames
- Inferring a COMPILATION tag if the artists are differentAnd probably others...
An error occurred while saving the comment @Guilhem so maybe you'd like http://ideas.blisshq.com/forums/21939-bliss/suggestions/36803215-the-ability-to-populate-track-artist-from-linked ?
An error occurred while saving the comment Nicely summarised.
An error occurred while saving the comment To an extent, 2a is in principle already covered by the accuracy rules - only trouble is it doesn't work for completing missing fields!
An error occurred while saving the comment Thanks for the very clear clarification!
An error occurred while saving the comment What sort of problems? Do you mean issues with the way bliss updates the album artist tag?
Right now, bliss shows different tags depending on the album artist... If an album artist is set, that is what is shown in the artist field. If not, it's the track artists.
An error occurred while saving the comment Sounds good. I think the 'rule' for this might be a checkbox declaring "album artist" must be set for each album, and the response (when it isn't) is to set the album artist as you say.
Could also check that the album artist is accurate... I had a case the other day where two tracks on an album had different album artists, and the rest of the tracks had no album artist. That's asking for trouble...
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An error occurred while saving the comment > tag every album that has the compilation tag with the same Various Artists title in the Album Artist tag.
This has been completed as part of: https://ideas.blisshq.com/forums/21939-bliss/suggestions/2739754-automatically-complete-album-artist
As implied by my comment:
> Inferring a COMPILATION tag if the artists are different
We could use the new local album tag sourcing as a way of doing the first part.
An error occurred while saving the comment I just added correctness checking for compilation. This works in a different way to other correctness checking, in that if the setting is absent, we always look at linked releases anyway. If the linked releases say that this is definitely a compilation, a fix is suggested to change it so.
This is a different solution to that laid out above, which is more of a "derived tag" solution, so I'll keep this open as it might have been that which people have voted for.
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An error occurred while saving the comment Just a personal note that won't mean much to anyone else - this becomes a lot easier with recent work to deduce ALBUM ARTIST from existing tags. See LocalAlbumTagSourceHeuristics...
An error occurred while saving the comment Sorry - what do you mean by "Bliss uses tags that I can't see in other tag editors"?
An error occurred while saving the comment Something that just came to mind is that, once parsed, the information from file paths could be used to perform lookups for more data for that album. Just wanted to record that thought!
An error occurred while saving the comment I'm beginning to think this would be best implemented on the Untagged page, so that albums go through a staging process of only being allowed onto the "Albums" page once they are tagged.
The disadvantage of this is that it forces you to have tags, but is that really a problem?
An error occurred while saving the comment I just realised that in a more general sense this could be used in bliss to merely identify music to the various rules, e.g. the cover art rule could use it for album and artist name information, and the art could be saved to file or embedded.
Many other rules though would make no sense to use this with, e.g. file organisation. Therefore the applicability is limited.
An error occurred while saving the comment Thanks for this. Overall, I'd prefer to go with the acoustic fingerprinting approach to tagging untagged files first. See http://ideas.blisshq.com/forums/21939-bliss/suggestions/701338-automatic-song-identification-and-tagging-of-untag
If that doesn't cover everything, this approach to tagging is till valid.
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An error occurred while saving the comment You could set up a reverse proxy on the Synology to provide authentication, e.g. https://www.blisshq.com/music-library-management-blog/2017/03/07/setting-up-bliss-authentication/
An error occurred while saving the comment Thanks - so does this happen to all HTTP traffic to the NAS's IP?
An error occurred while saving the comment Hi - can you explain what you mean by "synology servers, configured with HTTPS access" - are you referring to a setting in DSM?
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An error occurred while saving the comment That's odd - if anything I tend to get comments that we over group!
Can you click "Help" then "Download debug archive" and send it to us at [email protected] with some example album names?
The only thing I'd add is that because bliss is written for a different purpose than Plex et al (it's an organiser rather than a player) sometimes the way we present your library has to be a bit different. It might not be the case here, but in some cases Plex might go to lengths to group an album to make it easier to play, but bliss might want to show the album is split, to make it more obvious to re-organise. Hope that makes sense.
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An error occurred while saving the comment Nice - there are probably some browser plugins that will do this for you. E.g. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/site-color-changer/ (for Firefox) https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/change-colors/ageghplgcapnfpdhapeemolbmfccclke?hl=en (for Chrome).
An error occurred while saving the comment I guess an ability to "skin" the interface could be something... if you know CSS you can probably do something yourself with a browser plugin to override the CSS.
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An error occurred while saving the comment Nice idea. Some people have large folders of assorted files and may only want to tag a subset of them.
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An error occurred while saving the comment The untagged page *will* use external data. It uses fingerprinting to identify the music, and provide metadata. Assuming the fingerprints are found in the database of course!
But the other issue - where existing tags aren't shown - is an issue. Co-incidentally I added this to the bug tracker the other day. I've linked this page with it so I can update this when we fix it.
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An error occurred while saving the comment Yes - I think currently a custom tag might be shown, but all custom tags may be combined into one cell. E.g. a TXXX field.
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An error occurred while saving the comment Makes sense - I can see how that would be useful for playback. I'm a bit surprised there's such a need for organisation of music, but life's full of surprises :-)
An error occurred while saving the comment Sounds nice, but quite complicated! Do you actually have a need for this? In most families I find there's one person responsible for organising the music, but maybe this isn't a family group?
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An error occurred while saving the comment This sounds a bit like some ideas I've had around "post actions" - something done to music when compliance is assessed. It could be moving files... but it could also be telling a music player about the change (for example).
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An error occurred while saving the comment Not sure if it helps as a workaround, but the rules are stored in files with the name "settings". If you have just one set of rules, it's just "settings". This should be in:
Windows: C:\Users\[username]\.bliss
macOS: /Users/[username]/Library/Application Support/bliss
Linux: /home/[username]/.blissSounds like you almost want to save groups of rules, and be able to switch between them?
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An error occurred while saving the comment I think this is actually a bug. I'll look into it.
An error occurred while saving the comment Yeah, this is confusing. It should be a red X or a green tick. I'll watch out for this.
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An error occurred while saving the comment Do you mean on a per-album basis?
If you mean globally for all albums, why not just remove from the settings page - is it basically a quicker way of doing that what you want?
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An error occurred while saving the comment @Pete Yes, I don't think we can do that right now - it's the wipe-then-fallback-to-original that we are missing.
What if it worked from the point of view of genres first - you could think of it as a table of genres, and then if you update that genre, all albums with that genre would be updated? That way you can change to the consolidated list of genres. It assumes that all albums for a genre want to have their genre changed in the same way.
An error occurred while saving the comment I don't understand why the custom genre column would be needed?
An error occurred while saving the comment Thanks. Internal to bliss there is a genre tree. It's here -> http://www.blisshq.com/app/genre-tree . When bliss encounters a genre not in the allowed list, it looks in the genre tree and looks up, parent by parent, until it encounters an allowed genre and suggests that.
Currently this tree is fixed, static.
For your case, this would imply Jazz parenting "Stride Piano" etc. It would also suggest a way of editing the tree itself as part of the configuration... or maybe simple "parent of" relationships between genres can be stored and shared by bliss users to make the genre tree both more accurate and more complete.
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An error occurred while saving the comment Thanks Bob. What sort of scenario are we talking about here - where there are no track names?
Take a look at https://ideas.blisshq.com/forums/21939-bliss/suggestions/2458603-use-the-folder-and-file-name-to-help-identify-song
And in a similar area: https://ideas.blisshq.com/forums/21939-bliss/suggestions/2714313-auto-suggest-album-art-based-on-file-name-or-tags
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An error occurred while saving the comment I initially thought I would have to merge this idea elsewhere because people have asked me about it so much by email etc... but it turns out it isn't on the ideas forum yet!
Here's one which is close, but I want to keep the ideas separate because they have different intents: https://ideas.blisshq.com/forums/21939-bliss/suggestions/9161260-move-music-files-between-libraries
Also see https://ideas.blisshq.com/forums/21939-bliss/suggestions/4191110--big-one-changing-bliss-to-a-task-queue-work-flow which has some overlap.
This idea would qualify under a broad idea I've had called "post actions" which means: once an album matches a given state (say: it is compliant) then perform some action.
Ideally, to improve maintenance, these actions would be derived from the potential rules encoded in bliss. I've also thought about making these actions available on a manual invocation basis for each album (e.g. just an action on the album page to change the capitalisation of tracks, or whatever), but that's another subject!
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27 votes
An error occurred while saving the comment @Markus do you mean if you have nested directories? E.g.
All Things Must Pass/
- Disc 1/
- Track 1.flac
- Track 2.flac
- Disc 2/
- Track 1.flac
- Track 2.flac
- cover.jpgYou're referring to "cover.jpg"?
An error occurred while saving the comment The URL that you would need to paste would have to be the direct one to the image. You can find it by clicking an image on the album overview. For example: http://localhost:3220/thumbnail/LCD+Soundsystem/This+Is+Happening/?1330939691913
An error occurred while saving the comment Yeah, good point. This is something I have wondered about before, briefly. It would be very useful for those multi disc albums as you say.
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An error occurred while saving the comment This seems a common request for DJs inparticular.
Did you see:
- https://ideas.blisshq.com/forums/21939-bliss/suggestions/1871581-handle-folders-containing-singles
- https://ideas.blisshq.com/forums/21939-bliss/suggestions/42192883-mark-as-singlesDo they cover similar ground?
I assume you mean "singles" as an individual track rather than an actual single release (which often, although not always, contain other tracks). In that case, "album" is synonymous with "single" - what it really means is "release".
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An error occurred while saving the comment What appears to be happening here is some confusion around what is denoted the "album artist" for the album.
We choose the album artist based on:
- The ALBUM_ARTIST tag
- The ARTIST tag
- The COMPILATION tag
- The location of the files (which act as a grouping indicator - the file/folder names are not used)If "Various" is chosen at any point, this normally means the album was combined for some reason - is it a compilation, or are the files in the same folder?
That was quick \o/