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Package Bliss as a QPKG for easy installation on QNAP NAS devices, where all my music is :)

completed John Ferguson 48 supporters

completed Dan Gravell responded ·

This has now been launched: Release 20170919 - official @QNAP_nas support! https://www.blisshq.com/music-library-management-blog/2017/09/19/release-20170914-official-qnap/ , would love to get feedback!

46 comments

Dan Gravell

Thanks John. If anyone wants to work with me on this project I'm happy to lend a hand, just as with the ReadyNAS and Synology versions.

Michael

This would be great. I have a QNAP and would be willing to download Bliss onto it and provide remote access if necessary, to get it working.

Michael

Dan, I'll assist and lend access to my test QNAP

Mike

Dan Gravell

I'm really looking for someone who will take bliss and create a package for the QNAP, a little like the following projects:

http://pcloadletter.co.uk/2012/09/17/bliss-package-for-synology/
http://www.readynas.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=53986

Benjamin

Any update on this? Thanks

Dan Gravell

For now I'm still waiting on anyone with the technical chops on QNAP to start work on it. As I said I'll be happy to help.

Michael

A QPKG is created and in the testing phase. Can you tell me where the file is that saves the config settings?

Dan Gravell

Woh, cool!

A folder is created in the user's home drive called '.bliss'. Inside this all the config and internal data is stored. It is possible to override this location if required.

Feel free to get in touch by email if you have more detailed questions.

Sebastiaan

Good to hear that there is a development going! If there is an update, please let it know.

Jan Tönjes

yeah, it'd be awsome of this would work :-)

Dan Gravell

There's a discussion about this here: http://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?f=132&t=72660

James

Any progress on this? Would love to run it on the NAS. Also, if support of file conversion would be nice. APE+CUE/WAV/multi-track-> individual Flac

Dan Gravell

You'd have to ask the people writing the plugin... best to get in touch with them via the QNAP forum.

Joseph Derrick

This never appeared to come to fruition, or have I somehow missed it?

Dan Gravell

I'll try to follow up to some of the people below...

Dan Gravell

I've been in touch with some of the people below, and they sent a WiP QPKG: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6134049/Bliss_0.1.zip

As far as I can see, this is a work-in-progress for an old version of bliss. If anyone wants to take this forward I offer all the help I can in customising bliss to make sure it runs fine on QNAP devices. However, without a QNAP to test on myself, there's little point in me doing this work.

Dazzer_H

Would love to have Bliss running on mt QNAP NAS

Anonymous

Hi Dan

I'd also like to help if I can - have an x86 Qnap

mb

Dan Gravell

mb, please get in contact via http://www.blisshq.com/contact.html and we can discuss...

Jos

Hi, I also would like Bliss to become available for QNAP. Sadly I don't have the necessary skills

(knowledge of Linux, compiling binaries, the command line, installing Java).

Hopefully somebody else does?

J.

Dan Morgan

+1 vote for Asustor NAS devices (they use apk's). Used to have a ReadyNAS as my primary, but upgraded to Asustor. My remaining ReadyNAS is already overloaded app-wise, so don't want to use the RN app if possible. :)

Dan Gravell

Can anyone comment on whether implementing bliss within a Docker container would satisfy this? I understand Docker support is coming to QNAP but wasn't sure on device by device support.

Also: http://ideas.blisshq.com/forums/21939-bliss/suggestions/8836213-bliss-docker-container

Sean Gordon

I can confirm that Bliss works in the QNAP Container host, and the set-up process is pretty straight forward. The steps I used are listed below - any improvements or suggestions welcome as this was my first shot at configuring a container...

BTW: It would be handy if there was a standard URL for fetching the latest Bliss install jar file - e.g. http://www.blisshq.com/downloads/bliss-install-latest.jar

Create New Container - I used ubunti-trusty (LXC) which is listed under the QNAP Recommended Containers
In the configuration panel make the following changes:
Advanced-Network: Map TCP port 3220 on container to 3220 on host NAS
Advanced-Device: TTY(4) R/W (Not sure if this step is necessary)
Advanced-Storage: Map /path/to/music to /mnt/Music (R/W)
CPU 50%, RAM 1024 (Just a guess here, but these limits seem to work with my library)

Start the Container, and got to the container console in the QNAP UI, then execute the following commands

apt-get update
apt-get install wget
apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
wget http://www.blisshq.com/downloads/bliss-install-20151013.jar?20151013&filename=downloads/bliss-install-20151013.jar

java -jar bliss-install-20151013.jar -console

I installed bliss in /root, so start using /root/bin/bliss.sh

Wait for Bliss to start, then go to http://<your-QNAP-IP>:3220 and configure Bliss as normal.

Sean Gordon

It looks like the memory and CPU settings are fine for the QNAP Container - Bliss is currently churning through my music collection and the container memory usage are both sitting around 60% of the allocated resources (1024Mb & 50% of NAS CPU), so I'd expect it to be a lot lower once the initial scan is complete.

Dan Gravell

Sean, so is this "native" running inside QNAP or is it inside a Docker container? What processor is the QNAP running?

I have also been talking to someone writing a Docker container, see https://hub.docker.com/r/gshipley/bliss/ . I thought this was only good for x86 architectures, but maybe QNAP is x86...

You can get a URL to the latest version of bliss from http://www.blisshq.com/app/latest-linux-version .

Great work.

Sean Gordon

Dan, My install is on an x86 QNAP NAS running QTS 4.2 - this comes with the QNAP Container Station app which supports LXC and Docker containers. There is also access to the docker & LXC command line tools if you SSH to the NAS. The only reason I chose the LXC image was that it built a smaller container that the Docker one for the Ubuntu install.
I've checked the link to gshipley's site and I can fetch the Docker image using the command line tools on the QNAP and the container runs fine on the QNAP :o)

Cheers

Sean

Dan Gravell

Cool; I didn't really perceive the difference with LXC but now I can see we are using two different technologies there. I like options ;-)

Dazzer_H

Hi All,
Please could someone explain to a technophobic, in Janet and John style, how to set this up running on a QNAP 869.
Many thanks :) :)

Dan Gravell

Sean is going to write up the instructions for the blog. There's also the Docker container here: https://hub.docker.com/r/gshipley/bliss/ which I think should work if you are running an x86 based QNAP device. Anyone have instructions for how to get started with that on QNAP?

Patatorz

Hello I tried to install it on a qnap following the instructions but since the first command (docker build --rm=true --tag="bliss-image") it fails. Perhaps i missed something......

Thanks for your help

Anonymous

Hello.
Great service/app you have created from what i have read.
I would be very happy to buy unlimited license if only there would be qpkg for simple installation and updates.

Current bodge dont say how to update to new versions. Also, current solution require some tricks to make it work.

I would prefer to have nice clean install with simply way of updating to the latest version on QNAP.

Are there any plans to take QNAP seriously and create, port BLISS to it?
In the end there are many people interested in that solution.
The qnap qpkg could be released to a third party qpkg library - doesnt habve to be in the official QNAP app library.

Dan Gravell

You should be able to use in-app update to update bliss.... I think re-downloading the Docker container will also re-download the latest version of bliss.

But I agree this is a bit of a halfway-house. It's a question of having time to dedicate to this... Better support for more NAS devices is definitely one of my higher priorities.

Anonymous

Thank you for the prompt reply.
Do you have any eta for the QNAP package?

Dan Gravell

No, sorry. All I can say is integration with NASes is up there with a handful of other priorities...

Anonymous

I am not sure is that right, but the docker have build so far 104GB deamon...and counting.

[/share/Docker] # docker build --rm=true --tag="bliss-image" .
Sending build context to Docker daemon 104.3 GB

Please advise.

Dan Gravell

I forgot to mention that work on this is being collaborated on at https://github.com/seangordon/QNAP-bliss

This is a project to build a QPKG installer. In theory I think it works now; there are a couple of issues outstanding: the only major one is that fingerprinting doesn't work.

Anonymous

I do have a Qnap....:-)
Perhaps I could test it?

Dan Gravell

Just working through one problem already found, then I'll send you the updated version.

Joseph Derrick

I'd love to beta test!

Joseph Derrick

I've installed the latest qpkg on both my ARM and Intel based devices and it seems the service doesn't start after installing? How can I start it?

Dan Gravell

Probably easiest to chat via email... but there should Start button next to the App.

Jeff wilson

Dan the qpkg is 404.

Dan Gravell

Thanks for the heads up - have fixed - you might need to refresh your browser.